Kevin Cyr is an Inspector with Royal Canadian Mounted Police and is the current commander of the RCMP Emergency
Response Team in British Columbia, which is the second largest tactical unit in Canada. Kevin has been with RCMP for 22
years and has been with the team for 7 years. He has a master’s in law from Osgoode Hall Law School and is published
internationally in law and criminology.

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My guest today is Jordan Robison. This episode is a follow up to last week’s Critical Incident Review about the August 18, 2021, shooting that occurred when the San Bernardino Police Department’s SWAT Team attempted to arrest a suspect who had ambushed and attempted to murder a San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Deputy the day before. When the team performed a vehicle takedown the suspect immediately opened fire on the team with a 10mm handgun, striking Jordan in both forearms, his shoulder, his femur, his stomach below the armor and a grazing wound to his ribs. He was also hit in the abdomen which was stopped by his armor. After last week’s episode we received several calls and emails asking about Jordan so we decided to do a follow up episode with him to discuss his recovery and his personal lessons learned. There is a great deal of very valuable information on this episode which we hope will help others who are affected by an on-duty shooting.

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On August 18, 2021, the San Bernardino California SWAT Team was assigned to locate and arrest a suspect who had ambushed and attempted to murder a San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Deputy the day before. When the team located and attempted a vehicle takedown the suspect immediately opened fire on the team with a 10mm handgun, striking Officer Jordan Robison 8 times and Officer Chris Shipley once. Officer Robison was hit in both forearms, his shoulder, his femur, his stomach below the armor and a took grazing wound to his ribs. He was also hit twice in the abdomen which were stopped by his armor. Officer Shipley, despite being shot in the leg, was able to return fire along with a teammate fatally wounding the suspect. Officer Shipley then rendered lifesaving medical aid to Officer Robison. SWAT Medic Spencer Brumbaugh was also on scene and provided lifesaving aid to Officer Robison immediately after the incident and through subsequent transport to the emergency room. My guests today are Jordan Robison, Chris Shipley and Spencer Brumbaugh

My guest today is Bob Koontz. Bob is the founder of High Reliability Group, which he created after serving 20 years in the United States Navy. Bob’s distinguished naval career included serving on five different nuclear fast attack submarines and culminated with him being given command of the USS Key West, a $2 billion nuclear-powered Los Angeles-class fast attack submarine. Following his retirement from the Navy, Bob has worked in a variety of leadership roles, primarily in the energy industry, where he has led business development, project management, and consulting efforts for large and small companies. Bob is an expert in the leadership of high-reliability organizations and a co-author of the book, “‘Extreme Operational Excellence,’ which focuses on the culture of the United States nuclear submarine force. Our conversation today focuses on utilizing specific techniques he learned in the nuclear submarine community to drive the culture of high reliability organizations.

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My guest today is John Mattingly. John is a retired Sgt from the Louisville Police Department who led the search warrant
service at the home of Breonna Taylor on March 13, 2020 and was shot in the leg by her boyfriend Kenneth Walker
before returning fire along with another officer resulting in the death of Ms. Taylor. This event, of course, became a
huge catalytic event for protests, riots, lawsuits, death threats against the officers and, tragically, the shooting of two
more officers in response to the multi-day civil unrest that followed. It has also led to three of the officers involved in
obtaining the warrant as well as one of the officers involved in the raid being charged with federal crimes. John has
recently written a book called 12 Seconds in the Dark that documents the facts of the case from his perspective and
discusses numerous issues that have not been discussed in the media.